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Adi · 20-10-2004, 23:44

What is with spanish teams? My impression is, that La Liga is weakest every year

Less people on the tribunes, less goals, worst results in cups.. Valencia plays like Italians, Barca without conceptions vs Milan, Depor is still defending against every team, Real must be lucky to win 1:0. Is it normal to the best liga over the world? Where is the reason? More Tv Stations wants to show PremierLeague, SerieA then Primera... In 2006 I will be able to watch all the liga's without spanish, where matchess will be ending by 1 or 2 goals. Does all the presindents from Spain know it???? Where do you go my favourite liga? What is Your opinion?

Crocodile_Dundee · 21-10-2004, 10:32

Valencia under Ranieri play attacking football and were top scorers last year. Barca completely outplayed Milan and alongside Inter are my favourites for the Champions League. Depor needed to go back to basics in order to gain confidence and Real Madrid are very poor when Zidane is not in form.

Donato · 21-10-2004, 12:56

crisis-only if your name is perez!!!

alan partridge · 21-10-2004, 13:56

Blimey, a post that's negative about La liga! I wonder how many people here follow the lesser teams in La Liga or have ever been to any of their games? I went to see Rayo Vallecano a few times. when they played Depor obviously and some other clubs like Zaragoza. In those games its hard to imagine you are in the 'best' league in the world. Rubbish stadium, not even full, and very average football.

Good fun and nice atmosphere but more like a lower league game for me. Certainly not the league that some people on here describe La Liga as.

caabrego · 23-10-2004, 17:48

If la liga is in crisis, how do you explain that Villarreal played a good game at Olimpico against Lazio (1-1)? What about the 2-0 of Bilbao against Parma?
No my friend, Italy is in crisis and not Spain. You see, last season the start of Italian teams were the same in CL, very impressive but how many team qualified to semis?, none. Spain had at least one team in that round for the last 8 years

Believe me, Spain will come back in the next matchdays

Ekholm · 23-10-2004, 18:39

It's no crisis... but IMO there's an obvious difference between La Liga 04/05 and La Liga 03/04. The teams are more tactical now. Look at Barca, last season they started terribly but continued playing their game, which was rather 'free' and then succeeded in the end. This season they are very tactical but still doing well.

Depor are more defensively focused this season I think, which have made us score less goals.

Valencia have always been tactical, but this season it's worse than ever cause of Rainieri mostly.

Being more tactical doesn't necessarily mean that the teams are worse. But it really means that the games are less attractive to watch compared to earlier seasons. The mediocre teams are studying the better teams and are trying to find their weaknesses so they can get one point from them, something that they are doing more and more well with. Barca-Numancia is an example. Numancia had 10 men in defence almost the whole match and they knew exactly what to do. They almost deserved a point cause Barca couldn't find a way through but in the end Larsson scored on a header from a corner kick.

My point... less attractive football but maybe not less effecient.

Adi · 23-10-2004, 20:05

OK, I would very, very, very like to get your point of view... Let see. I believe, you are right?

Olli · 23-10-2004, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekholm

My point... less attractive football but maybe not less effecient.

Yes, La Liga is coming closer to Serie A...hmph...too bad

I hate that "let's play for result" football...well there are few exceptions luckily

(Barca (!!), Arsenal (!!!), Depor when being at their best...)

caabrego · 10-03-2005, 14:17

It seems that the elimination of Spain in CL has started again this discussion. Personally I don't believe that this is a crisis, it just a little sparkle in Spain's history. You will see it in the following hours with the teams that are playing in UEFA cup.

Feliuk · 10-03-2005, 14:55

Oh dear not again. What is the point of comparing leagues. Every league has its good points and bad points.Good teams and bad teams.Good grounds and bad grounds. Attacking teams and defensive teams, etc, etc, etc.

Fernando Torres · 10-03-2005, 15:10

Primera is a great league.

But, Serie A is the best for me.

Last season announcement for Calcio. On tv scenes of football pitches and supporters tribunes are changing, and a chick sais:
love
happiness
passion
sadness
sorrow etc
and in the end along with torch-liht parade (don't know what fans) she sais CALCIO...****in' good. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL FOOTBALL, NOT WASTE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS

Adi · 10-03-2005, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by caabrego

(...) You will see it in the following hours with the teams that are playing in UEFA cup.

I hope You are right, because I bet on them

Jorge · 10-03-2005, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando Torres

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL FOOTBALL, NOT WASTE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS

Hmmm, you mean the hundreds of millions € of debt italian clubs are allowed to produce without having to fear to loose their license??

In Germany this is even not possible for a licensed club to accumulate such debt by the statutes, but well, the pizzas....

Anton · 11-03-2005, 02:16

seriously i cant stand it when people say there is a crisis in any league!! every year one nation gets knocked out at the champions league group stage and every year the press say there is a crisis!!

Do u remember the year before milan won the champions league the italians did poorly, and everyone was carrying on how italy was ina crisis - then milan win it the next season!!

La Liga performed better than england last season and there was no talk about a crisis in england? matter of fact we had a debate about it, and last season out of all the competitions on direct results la liga was the strongest!

now there is a crisis??? i get fed up with all this sort of talk!

alan partridge · 11-03-2005, 05:56

what Anton said.

anyway it's all irrelevant, all true football fans know that the Icelandic league is the best in the world.

20-10-2004, 23:44	#1
Adi Senior Member Peña Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Poland - near Gdansk Posts: 3,593	Crisis in Primera? What is with spanish teams? My impression is, that La Liga is weakest every year Less people on the tribunes, less goals, worst results in cups.. Valencia plays like Italians, Barca without conceptions vs Milan, Depor is still defending against every team, Real must be lucky to win 1:0. Is it normal to the best liga over the world? Where is the reason? More Tv Stations wants to show PremierLeague, SerieA then Primera... In 2006 I will be able to watch all the liga's without spanish, where matchess will be ending by 1 or 2 goals. Does all the presindents from Spain know it???? Where do you go my favourite liga? What is Your opinion? __________________ Vamos Depor!

21-10-2004, 12:56	#3
Donato Veteran Peña Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 8,931	crisis-only if your name is perez!!! __________________ Leaving Fear Behind

21-10-2004, 13:56	#4
alan partridge Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 718	Blimey, a post that's negative about La liga! I wonder how many people here follow the lesser teams in La Liga or have ever been to any of their games? I went to see Rayo Vallecano a few times. when they played Depor obviously and some other clubs like Zaragoza. In those games its hard to imagine you are in the 'best' league in the world. Rubbish stadium, not even full, and very average football. Good fun and nice atmosphere but more like a lower league game for me. Certainly not the league that some people on here describe La Liga as. __________________

23-10-2004, 17:48	#5
caabrego Administrator Peña Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: El Salvador Posts: 24,852	If la liga is in crisis, how do you explain that Villarreal played a good game at Olimpico against Lazio (1-1)? What about the 2-0 of Bilbao against Parma? No my friend, Italy is in crisis and not Spain. You see, last season the start of Italian teams were the same in CL, very impressive but how many team qualified to semis?, none. Spain had at least one team in that round for the last 8 years Believe me, Spain will come back in the next matchdays __________________ Surviving at Primera División

23-10-2004, 20:05	#7
Adi Senior Member Peña Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Poland - near Gdansk Posts: 3,593	OK, I would very, very, very like to get your point of view... Let see. I believe, you are right? __________________ Vamos Depor!

21-10-2004, 10:32	#2
Crocodile_Dundee Veteran Peña Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: near Glasgow, UK Posts: 7,593	Valencia under Ranieri play attacking football and were top scorers last year. Barca completely outplayed Milan and alongside Inter are my favourites for the Champions League. Depor needed to go back to basics in order to gain confidence and Real Madrid are very poor when Zidane is not in form.

23-10-2004, 18:39	#6
Ekholm Veteran Peña Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,222	It's no crisis... but IMO there's an obvious difference between La Liga 04/05 and La Liga 03/04. The teams are more tactical now. Look at Barca, last season they started terribly but continued playing their game, which was rather 'free' and then succeeded in the end. This season they are very tactical but still doing well. Depor are more defensively focused this season I think, which have made us score less goals. Valencia have always been tactical, but this season it's worse than ever cause of Rainieri mostly. Being more tactical doesn't necessarily mean that the teams are worse. But it really means that the games are less attractive to watch compared to earlier seasons. The mediocre teams are studying the better teams and are trying to find their weaknesses so they can get one point from them, something that they are doing more and more well with. Barca-Numancia is an example. Numancia had 10 men in defence almost the whole match and they knew exactly what to do. They almost deserved a point cause Barca couldn't find a way through but in the end Larsson scored on a header from a corner kick. My point... less attractive football but maybe not less effecient.

10-03-2005, 14:17	#9
caabrego Administrator Peña Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: El Salvador Posts: 24,852	It seems that the elimination of Spain in CL has started again this discussion. Personally I don't believe that this is a crisis, it just a little sparkle in Spain's history. You will see it in the following hours with the teams that are playing in UEFA cup. __________________ Surviving at Primera División

10-03-2005, 14:55	#10
Feliuk Administrator Peña Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Watford, England & La Coruña Posts: 13,840	Oh dear not again. What is the point of comparing leagues. Every league has its good points and bad points.Good teams and bad teams.Good grounds and bad grounds. Attacking teams and defensive teams, etc, etc, etc. __________________

10-03-2005, 15:10	#11
Fernando Torres Almost Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 274	Primera is a great league. But, Serie A is the best for me. Last season announcement for Calcio. On tv scenes of football pitches and supporters tribunes are changing, and a chick sais: love happiness passion sadness sorrow etc and in the end along with torch-liht parade (don't know what fans) she sais CALCIO...****in' good. NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL FOOTBALL, NOT WASTE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS __________________ PACE WILL-TO-WIN INTELLIGENCE STRENGHT CLASS

11-03-2005, 02:16	#14
Anton Site Team Peña Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Blue Mountains, Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,142	seriously i cant stand it when people say there is a crisis in any league!! every year one nation gets knocked out at the champions league group stage and every year the press say there is a crisis!! Do u remember the year before milan won the champions league the italians did poorly, and everyone was carrying on how italy was ina crisis - then milan win it the next season!! La Liga performed better than england last season and there was no talk about a crisis in england? matter of fact we had a debate about it, and last season out of all the competitions on direct results la liga was the strongest! now there is a crisis??? i get fed up with all this sort of talk! __________________ .................................. *SOCCEROOS-YOU DID US ALL PROUD! NEVER SAY NEVER!!* GERMANY '06!** ..................Peña member no.30 - DEPOR PROUD!! ..................

11-03-2005, 05:56	#15
alan partridge Regular Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 718	what Anton said. anyway it's all irrelevant, all true football fans know that the Icelandic league is the best in the world. __________________

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