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Old 15-05-2006, 11:48   #16
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By the way, some might say we are merely swapping players for players and the money situation stays the same as we use all transfer fees borught in and all go out straight away. I think this is negative thinking, as we sell players who either want to leave and/or arepast their best or complacent or not happy, in other words for whatever reason not performing as they did/could.should. We replace these players with young hungry 1's who have time to develop their transfer value and generate money for the club in the future! Pepe if he progresses as he should will double in value within at most 3 yrs. Belluschi and Lucho the same as well! As for Uche if he does in primera what he's done in segunda, within 2 yrs he'll be worth 20 mil no problem and Diego if he proved himself over 2-3 yrs would also become a 20m+ player guaranteed! So moneywise we're not spending as such but more investing for the fututre!
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Old 15-05-2006, 11:55   #17
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Old 15-05-2006, 12:26   #18
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you are exaggerating the value of most of our players.
we will probably have to pay out some players to leave, and to tell you the truth andrade 20M and tristan 7.5M, i dont see it, someone will have to be crazy to do this.

We could take a look at juve, if they get dropped because of the fixing scandal, all of their players will leave. And we can get someone for a fair price

do you think that depor could go for a slovenian young player, the name is Birsa, the guy is a striker, and he's around 20 would cost probably around 1M maybe a bit less, and he is the bomb. Hehe if we get him we should get his attacking partner Burgic also around 20 years old. They would probably work much better than these unnatural combiantions we have been playing in the attacking zone

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Old 15-05-2006, 13:18   #19
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If I were Lendoiro... I would be confused having to deal with a situation completely different compared to the past 15 years!

Between 1991 and 1996 Depor mainly signed experienced and/or cheap players. Since then we spent heavily each summer until and including the summer of 2002. In 2003 important players started to leave the club, and since then we're going downhill. Only Lendoiro knows our financial details, and they must be horrifying.
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:14   #20
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If I were Lendoiro,
- I would make Caparrós resign immediately from his coaching position (i.e. without compensation)
- would try anything to contract Javier Aguirre (if Aguirre joins Atlético instead, Fernando Vázquez or Bernd Schuster, maybe even Ernesto Valverde), if those are really eager to build something year for the next 2-3 years
- and let the new coach total freedom concerning incoming and outgoing players (always within the financial limitations, of course), so that there can be no complaining about players unwanted by the coach
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:16   #21
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Your third point is very valid, if not crucial, but why couldn't this system be employed with Capa? Seems unfair to him seeing as he had to work with a squad that's totally molded by Jabo?
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:16   #22
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If I were Lendoiro,
- I would make Caparrós resign immediately from his coaching position (i.e. without compensation)
- would try anything to contract Javier Aguirre (if Aguirre joins Atlético instead, Fernando Vázquez or Bernd Schuster, maybe even Ernesto Valverde), if those are really eager to build something year for the next 2-3 years
- and let the new coach total freedom concerning incoming and outgoing players (always within the financial limitations, of course), so that there can be no complaining about players unwanted by the coach

first capa is not the problem we play bad
aguirre we cant afford him!!! he cost 20m and we can't risk it and he has no european experience so
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:18   #23
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first capa is not the problem we play bad
aguirre we cant afford him!!! he cost 20m and we can't risk it and he has no european experience so
he means Aguirre the coach of Osasuna!!!
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:41   #24
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Your third point is very valid, if not crucial, but why couldn't this system be employed with Capa? Seems unfair to him seeing as he had to work with a squad that's totally molded by Jabo?

Apart from the fact that we aren't going to see beautiful football with Caparrós (it struck me today hearing in CadenaSer that Sevilla's football this year was the most joyous to watch since many years) I just don't see a common basis between Lendoiro and Caparrós. Their relationship has cooled down, it seems to me. For all that they say to the press now, I think in the last weeks/months many things have gone broke between those two and that's worrying for a club that is so much concentrated on one person, its president.

As for me, too many times Caparrós has stated now he isn't illusioned with the project anymore (only to state the exact opposite days after), so who guarantees that he isn't the first to call it quit after a losing streak with a new Depor team, or something else that's not according to his wishes?
It's just that in my opinion he doesn't transmit the stability and security I want to see from a coach that has a long-term challenge ahead of him. That's why I would hand over the reins to another coach.
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Old 16-05-2006, 22:43   #25
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he means Aguirre the coach of Osasuna!!!


a ok sorry my mistake
those names look the same
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Apart from the fact that we aren't going to see beautiful football with Caparrós (it struck me today hearing in CadenaSer that Sevilla's football this year was the most joyous to watch since many years) I just don't see a common basis between Lendoiro and Caparrós. Their relationship has cooled down, it seems to me. For all that they say to the press now, I think in the last weeks/months many things have gone broke between those two and that's worrying for a club that is so much concentrated on one person, its president.

As for me, too many times Caparrós has stated now he isn't illusioned with the project anymore (only to state the exact opposite days after), so who guarantees that he isn't the first to call it quit after a losing streak with a new Depor team, or something else that's not according to his wishes?
It's just that in my opinion he doesn't transmit the stability and security I want to see from a coach that has a long-term challenge ahead of him. That's why I would hand over the reins to another coach.

Again, good points, but it seems to me that Lendoiro really wan't Capa to stay. From all that I've read and seen the past few weeks, Capa's departure was very close, but something made him change his mind, exactly what it was I doubt none other than the two involved will ever know. Capa has, I gather, felt desillusioned and extremely frustrated this year and been far from happy with his situation, this due to lack of spirit (confidence?) from "his" players and way to tight knots around his wrists from Lendoiro.
We all know that, after all, Lendoiro always has the club's best interest at heart and I really doubt that lendoiro would try to keep a coach he doesn't get along with.

So, in conclusion, it all come's down what one would read about their recent buddy-relationship. If Lendoiro wanted to get rid of Capa, he had the golden oppurtunity of doing this without losing cash but instead he convinced Capa to stay around, and Capa chose to do so without any hazzle because, one could believe, he found new optimism and probably had one or two of his preferences met, the awaited departure of many of our (old and Jabo-stamped) players could confirm this theory. One could think that they finally has reached a mutual understanding, something that they clearly didn't have had this season.
Of course, another theory is that Lendoiro, in order to win a round against the Osasuna board, forced Capa to stay either by threatening with big economic retribution by Capa since he'd break his contract or by some classic bullshit - an extremely cynical theory of course, but we are, after all, talking about Lendoiro.
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Old 21-05-2006, 18:45   #27
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If i were Lendoiro id show capa the flipping door, id give our mate Arsenio a ring and buy a brazilian talent and a few more players u have mentioned then we would be SUPER DEPOR again!!!!
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Did you know this?

Depor Sport has created a section that has the same title that this topic. They are inviting the readers to write and guess the best way to build a new squad, more precisely they give you 12 million euro and you have to buy 2 or 4 new players.

It seems that somebody in Deportivo is watching us
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Did you know this?

Depor Sport has created a section that has the same title that this topic. They are inviting the readers to write and guess the best way to build a new squad, more precisely they give you 12 million euro and you have to buy 2 or 4 new players.

It seems that somebody in Deportivo is watching us

Or maybe Julen got the idea from the newspaper?
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